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on your post. I do not see them when searching for my name in Yahoo or
AltaVista,then clicking on an item when it is found. The difference
seems to be that the ones I've found are archived at (Andy Norman's
archives):
http://www-uk.hpl.hp.com/people/ange/archives/archives-98/voice-users-archive/
The ones that you see with the ads are archived at (21 Century):
http://voicerecognition.com/voice-users/archive/
I did not know that 21 Century was also archiving the posts, I thought
only Andy Norman was. I also don't understand why, when I do a search
for my email address in Yahoo, AltaVista, etc., I get posts archived on
Andy Norman's page and you get them archived on 21 Century page. I can
understand why, as a vendor, you would object to this. On the other
hand, I can understand 21 Century placing ads on the pages that they are
archiving on their servers. I don't have an answer for this. Anyone?
Rose
"who is still trying to understand how Netscape makes enough money to
pay employees, etc. now that their product is free"
artin Tibor wrote:
>
> I started in Yahoo and was bumped to Alta Vista and I was looking for Susan
> Fulton's Out-Loud URL that I had lost. What I found was a large graphic
> tag with the voice users link and another large grpahic link for 21st
> Century next to it. I then did another search on my name and found the
> same. I have no problem with 21st Century advertising or promoting their
> business at all. I just don't think that the voice users forum should be
> the vehicle. They get considerable coverage given that every message
> contains their URL. Large graphics attached to every posting is over the
> line from my point of view.
>
> I just tried it again and it happened on this posting but not all
>
> http://voicerecognition.com/voice-users/archive/0176.html
>
> It may be dated related. It seems to have started in 1998. I have
> attached the graphic.
>
> At 08:47 AM 3/11/98 -0600, you wrote:
> >Martin,
> >When I went to AltaVista and typed my name, the resulting adds I saw
> >were for Amazon and TurboTax - maybe the adds rotate or something. As
> >for the archiving on search engine pages of individual voice-users
> >posts, I don't like it, we have discussed this before in this group. I
> >don't think that they used to be indexed by search engines - think this
> >just started about a year ago. Have no idea how the indexing could be
> >stopped, I'm not a "net wiz". I really appreciate the time and expense
> >that 21st Century is expending hosting the group and I don't think that
> >their hosting of the group should take away their right to advertise on
> >search engine pages. Perhaps a way could be found so that only the
> >voice-users subscription page was listed with search engines, not every
> >voice-user's post?
> >Rose
> >
> >Martin Tibor wrote:
> >>
> >> Although all of us appreciate the hosting services of 21st Century this was
> >> meant to be a forum independent of marketing influences. I was stunned to
> >> find my comments as well as everyone else all over the Internet with large
> >> linked graphic tagged advertisements to visit the 21st Century website. An
> >> Alta Vista search of your name will reveal the same.
> >>
> >> I am a reseller and I try to contribute where I can to this forum and
> >> attempt to remove myself from any attempt to use this forum to sell
> >> services or products. The other resellers with few exceptions have done
> >> the same. This move by 21st Century to own all these messages and comments
> >> as their own and use them to market their products is taking unfair
> >> advantage of this situation. I consider this the worst abuse possible of
> >> this relationship and welcome comments from the voice users.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Marty Tibor
> >> Synapse
> >> 3095 Kerner Blvd., Suite S
> >> San Rafael, CA 94901
> >> Phone 415-455-9700
> >> Fax 415-455-9801
> >> toll-free 888-285-9988
> >>
> >> martytib@@synapseadaptive.com
> >> http://www.synapseadaptive.com
> >>
> >> Providers of adaptive and assistive technology solutions.
> >
> >
>
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>
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> Part 1.2 Type: GIF Image (image/gif)
> Encoding: base64
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>
> Regards,
>
> Marty Tibor
> Synapse
> 3095 Kerner Blvd., Suite S
> San Rafael, CA 94901
> Phone 415-455-9700
> Fax 415-455-9801
> toll-free 888-285-9988
>
> martytib@@synapseadaptive.com
> http://www.synapseadaptive.com
>
> Providers of adaptive and assistive technology solutions.
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