RE: vi, sas, and stata

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I've found using anything like DOS or telnet windows under Windows (95 and NT) is not very great with DragonDictate. I haven't used Windows 95 lately, but under NT if I try to say Oops the word history appears but does not get the focus, and any mouse command will not only result in the mouse moving to the top left hand corner of the screen but it will also set the caps lock on (without setting the caps lock key, I have to say another mouse command to reverse it). I generally edit my files using Notepad or Visual C++ because I've always hated vi, even when I typed, but hopefully if you have the other problems I've described you will know you aren't the only one.


Normally I run tsch windows instead of telnet windows, I'm far from a Unix expert so that may not mean anything useful to you (I've probably got the wrong terminology -- I like Unix only slightly more than I like vi), but other than the problems I've listed above they work fine.


I've seen SAS for Windows and think it could be used with DragonDictate, but haven't tried it myself yet.


Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: David Fox [SMTP:davidfox@@fas.harvard.edu]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 1998 9:53 AM
To: voice-users@@voicerecognition.com
Cc: davidfox@@fas.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: vi, sas, and stata


> Has anyone, using Dragondictate :
> 1. used vi in UNIX through a telnet window in Windows 95?
> 2. used SAS for windows?
> 3. used STATA for windows?
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
>


yes to number 1. In fact, I am writing this email in vi. At work I use
an X server (hummingbird exceed) which emulates an X terminal, rather
than a telnet window, so that I can open multiple windows on the same
host without retyping my password, as well as using graphical
applications. However, I originally used a telnet program at work, and
still do when I work from home, since using X Windows over a 28.8
connection is pretty slow.


A lot of people on this list who use Unix prefer emacs, because its
macro facilities are more powerful, allowing you to do some things with
emacs macros rather than with DragonDictate macros, and also because it
avoids the inconvenience of vi's two modes. Also, while DragonDictate's
command and dictation modes correspond reasonably well with vi's command
and insert modes, it is more difficult to do something similar with
NaturallySpeaking, and since I am moving towards using NaturallySpeaking
and natural text foot, at least for editing latex files, I am thinking
seriously of finally making the switch to emacs.


If you are committed to using vi, it is actually better to use a
freeware version of vi called vim. It adds two very important
features: (1) the ability to undo multiple changes in case
DragonDictate misrecognizes several commands in a row, and (2) the
ability to backspace over carriage returns, so that you can make
corrections properly for things you dictated before a word wrap or
explicit new line. Vim is available from


http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/vim/


I also have a set of DragonDictate 2.5/3 macros for using vi. However,
they are somewhat idiosyncratic in the way which they deal with the two
mode nature of vi, so you may find it easier to use only selected macros
or to write your own. My vi macros can be found at


http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/~dcfox/dragon/vi.html


David Fox
davidfox@@fas.harvard.edu
http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/~dcfox/index.html
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Well, well! It cannot be helped, and it is difficult not to slip in
talking to a dragon, or so I have always heard.


-- Balin, The Hobbit, J. R. R. Tolkien


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