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Dunsel
Dragon naturally speaking standard version 10, all updates applied and current, on windows seven ultimate. Was working fine, now whenever I click the desktop icon to start the program, I get the startup splash screen followed shortly thereafter by that message. The only option given is to close. The details button is grayed out slash disabled.
KnowBrainer Tech Support
If you are using NaturallySpeaking 10 or 10 with SP1, it is not the latest version. Click Ver. 10.1 Download if you'd like to upgrade from Ver. 10 to Ver. 10.1. Note that this has nothing to do with your problem but we just wanted to make sure you have the latest. Now onto your specific problem...

This error message typically occurs when you are using the Windows Vista or Windows 7 User Account Control (UAC) which you should disable with extreme prejudice. You will find a step-by-step on this process when you look up elevated in the NaturallySpeaking Quick Tips at the top of every page on the KnowBrainer Speech Recognition Forums.

You might also consider checking out the KnowBrainer Speech Recognition Forums for other speech related issues as it is the world's most popular speech recognition forum.
Dunsel
QUOTE (KnowBrainer Tech Support @ Jan 15 2010, 01:34 PM) *
If you are using NaturallySpeaking 10 or 10 with SP1, it is not the latest version. Click Ver. 10.1 Download if you'd like to upgrade from Ver. 10 to Ver. 10.1. Note that this has nothing to do with your problem but we just wanted to make sure you have the latest. Now onto your specific problem...

This error message typically occurs when you are using the Windows Vista or Windows 7 User Account Control (UAC) which you should disable with extreme prejudice. You will find a step-by-step on this process when you look up elevated in the NaturallySpeaking Quick Tips at the top of every page on the KnowBrainer Speech Recognition Forums.

You might also consider checking out the KnowBrainer Speech Recognition Forums for other speech related issues as it is the world's most popular speech recognition forum.

Thanks, but I've already been there and seen the solution, and apparently does not apply to this problem. The program is not being run as administrator. I checked both the shortcut on the desktop as well as the actual executable in the program folder file. I've already tried reinstalling, to no avail.
KnowBrainer Tech Support
QUOTE (Dunsel @ Jan 15 2010, 01:43 PM) *
Thanks, but I've already been there and seen the solution, and apparently does not apply to this problem. The program is not being run as administrator. I checked both the shortcut on the desktop as well as the actual executable in the program folder file. I've already tried reinstalling, to no avail.


Are you saying that you have already tried the following

Click the "Start" button.
3. Click "Computer".
4. Double-click the "Local Disk C:" drive.
5. Double-click the "Program Files" folder.
6. Double-click the "Nuance" folder.
7. Double-click the "NaturallySpeaking9" or "NaturallySpeaking10" folder.
8. Double-click the "Program" folder.
9. Right-click "natspeak.exe".
10. Select "Properties".
11. Click the "Compatibility" tab.
12. Clear the check mark from "Run as Administrator".
13. Click "OK".


and changed your UAC settings, In the Windows 7 “Action Center” to the lowest settings never notify?
KnowBrainer Tech Support
QUOTE (Dunsel @ Jan 15 2010, 01:43 PM) *
Thanks, but I've already been there and seen the solution, and apparently does not apply to this problem. The program is not being run as administrator. I checked both the shortcut on the desktop as well as the actual executable in the program folder file. I've already tried reinstalling, to no avail.


Are you saying that you have already tried the following

Click the "Start" button.
Click "Computer".
Double-click the "Local Disk C:" drive.
Double-click the "Program Files" folder.
Double-click the "Nuance" folder.
Double-click the "NaturallySpeaking9" or "NaturallySpeaking10" folder.
Double-click the "Program" folder.
Right-click "natspeak.exe".
Select "Properties".
Click the "Compatibility" tab.
Clear the check mark from "Run as Administrator".
Click "OK".


and changed your UAC settings, In the Windows 7 "Action Center" to the lowest settings never notify?
Dunsel
QUOTE (KnowBrainer Tech Support @ Jan 15 2010, 03:22 PM) *
Are you saying that you have already tried the following

Click the "Start" button.
Click "Computer".
Double-click the "Local Disk C:" drive.
Double-click the "Program Files" folder.
Double-click the "Nuance" folder.
Double-click the "NaturallySpeaking9" or "NaturallySpeaking10" folder.
Double-click the "Program" folder.
Right-click "natspeak.exe".
Select "Properties".
Click the "Compatibility" tab.
Clear the check mark from "Run as Administrator".
Click "OK".


and changed your UAC settings, In the Windows 7 "Action Center" to the lowest settings never notify?

Yep, that's correct. It was never running as administrator to begin with. I even tried changing the ownership from system to my user account. No change.
Dunsel
QUOTE (Dunsel @ Jan 15 2010, 04:05 PM) *
Yep, that's correct. It was never running as administrator to begin with. I even tried changing the ownership from system to my user account. No change.

I've resolved the issue. Somehow, yet again, my user files became corrupt. I have now begun training this accursed program for the sixth time in two years. That's three different machines, two different operating systems, two different major releases of Dragon, and yet all the same issues throughout.
Dunsel
QUOTE (Dunsel @ Jan 15 2010, 05:38 PM) *
I've resolved the issue. Somehow, yet again, my user files became corrupt. I have now begun training this accursed program for the sixth time in two years. That's three different machines, two different operating systems, two different major releases of Dragon, and yet all the same issues throughout.

Now I have another issue. For some reason it's no longer picking up my microphone. I can get through the audio settings wizard all the way, but no dictation or command is registered in the program. Can't even perform general training, there is no microphone registering. I give up. I think I'll just use windows voice recognition and be done with it.
Dunsel
QUOTE (mmarkoe @ Jan 16 2010, 06:33 PM) *
While we think Dragon is more accurate out of the box and has more powerful features built into the higher end editions, the added complexity as you have found out can be daunting.

If you are thinking of trying WSR (Windows Speech Recognition) read the short article, "Getting Started with Windows Speech Recognition." We also have available a $15.99 [b]WSRToolkit [/b]which adds the following 7 functions to WSR:
  1. Text Macros - easily create boilerplate macros that inserts blocks of text at a single voice command. For example, at the end of my letters I say, "Sign off," and my name, company name and web site are inserted.
  2. Command Macros allow you create step by step macros that utilize keyboard combinations. For example, I say, "Import Orders" and the macro executes Alt+f for the file menu, then "U" for Utilities, then "I" for Import etc.
  3. The Macro Editor window allows editing or creating script macros
  4. Train From Text allows you to select the text of your choosing and read it to the system. This trains the 'Acoustic Model' of your speech profile to make it more likely your words will appear according to your style of speaking.
  5. Add To Dictionary provides an easy way to add words or phrases to your personal speech dictionary
  6. Add From File parses personal MS-Word and Text documents of your choosing to increase dictation accuracy.
  7. Transcription reads your wave (.WAV) file from a digital recorder and transcribes it to text.
Marty Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc.

I'm already using it, right now. I really don't find such a great disparity in recognition accuracy between the two. I'm still using the Sennheiser microphone and the cable that I bought from you. I really am sick of troubleshooting dragon. I've been doing it for two years on three different machines and I'm really sick of it. As I've mentioned before, in my opinion it's the single buggiest program I have ever seen, of any type.
Dunsel
you may not believe this one, Martin, but a simple reboot resolved the microphone issue with Dragon. Go figure...

Technology is evil. I'm going to Mecca.
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